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DIY Mice Extermination – What We Learned

We found out we had mice in our apartment. We researched, bought supplies, and mice-proofed our apartment as best we could. A few months after that, I saw another mouse. I threw up my hands and wanted to find another apartment. We failed at finding a new apartment. In this post, we will sum up everything we’ve learned and what really worked (for us, at least).

Throughout this ordeal, I’ve scoured the Internet for information – mostly I found random threads and a few stories here and there. But I never chanced upon a blog that chronicled the financial, emotional, and deeply personal battle that results from living in a mice-infested apartment. Either people just aren’t affected by this sort of stuff or people just don’t want to talk about it.

Well, it makes me feel so much better to talk about it.

I can’t describe the shame and guilt that I felt about having mice in my apartment. Somehow I figured it was my fault – mice are dirty, ergo dirty people must have mice. Dirty people = me and ST. When I told my landlord’s son, he insisted that when he was living in this apartment, he’d never seen mice. So it must be something we’re doing wrong. The problem must have started with us.

This couldn’t be further from the truth.

I tossed and turned last night and couldn’t really sleep until around 5 am. I kept dreaming about checking the mouse traps and seeing only poop and no dead mice. I seriously think I heard squeaking and scratching behind the walls. I even got up and turned the lights on to inspect. ST didn’t like that at all.

Now, after we’ve used up our last can of Great Stuff and laid out as many traps as humanly possible, as I sit here reflecting on the past 72 hours of my own personal hell, this is what I’ve learned.

  • It is not and has not ever been our fault. This place is old, grimy, poorly maintained and riddled with mouse holes. Sunset Park is also the center of the mouse universe. All of these things existed before ST and I moved into this seemingly perfect apartment over a year ago.
  • There is no shame in having mice! Even though ST didn’t like it when I discussed our furry friends with other people, it was really therapeutic for me to talk about it. There was no judgment, only sympathy and understanding (thanks friends!). 9 times out of 10 the person I was talking to also had mice. This is NYC people! Not just mice, but bed bugs and roaches to boot. It happens to everyone. This does not mean you’re a dirty person – those suckers are hardy.
  • Keep calm and kill mice. If you’ve stumbled upon this blog in search of “humane” or “nice” ways to get rid of mice, you should definitely leave now. I don’t want to cuddle or be nice to mice – I want to kill them permanently. The best thing to do is to remain calm and create a plan. It might not work the first, second, or third time you try it. THAT’S OKAY. You just need to be strategic and meticulous.

Through trial and error, we found what worked most effectively for us. Here’s what you’ll need.

  • Great Stuff expanding foam. If you have mice issues, stock up on this. Depending on the size of your apartment, I’d recommend having at least one of these cans on hand at all times for emergency patch-ups. We recommend the triple-expanding foam in the black can.

  • Marble chips. Any type of small rocks will do but a huge sack of marble chips were like $4 so that’s what we picked up. This works much more effectively than steel wool because the mice in our apartment actually chewed through the damn steel wool.
  • Glue-type mouse traps. It’s completely okay to OD on mouse traps. Check out what the floor under our stove looks like:

WHAT WORKED FOR US

  • Get on your hands and knees and locate every crack and crevice. Don’t just look for holes – they can crawl out of the tiniest places and little cracks become future holes.
  • Fill holes with rocks. Get a chopstick or pencil and really push the rocks in there. Cram as many as you can in there.
  • Cover holes with spray foam. I liked to dig down past the rocks and spray to my heart’s content. Then I’d cover the rocks entirely with foam. The result will not look pretty but this is the best method so far.
  • If you’re super paranoid like me, set glue traps around this hole, just in case. Glue traps cost like $1 for four at our local deli so we went to town.
  • Repeat, repeat, repeat.

It is better to be safe than sorry so OVERDO IT. Overdo the crap out of it.

THIS STUFF DIDN’T WORK :-(

  • Steel wool. Our mice chewed right through it.
  • Caulk of any kind. Our exterminator used white caulk that the mice chewed right through like it was pudding. It only took a few days for them to do it too.
  • Poison. This had absolutely no effect on our mice. They ate it, pooped green poop, and went on their merry way. So not only did we have regular disease-causing poop laying around we had disease-causing poop laced with poison. Terrific.

If things don’t work out in the future, these are additional defenses we intend to try:

  • Peppermint essential oil. I’ve read a few times that they hate this smell.
  • Baiting traps with peanut butter. There are traps that mice crawl into and then get electrocuted. Then you just dump the body into the trash.
  • High-pitched noise makers. These gadgets supposedly give off a high-pitched sound that is inaudible to humans but terrible for mice. Some people swear by them. I’m skeptical but it can’t hurt. Update: We ended up purchasing a two pack of these. We haven’t seen any mice since we wrote this post.
  • Getting a dog. The most consistent recommendation we’ve gotten is to acquire a predator. The mice sense these animals and steer clear.

We know that this probably isn’t the final battle. It’s only a matter of time before the mice dig themselves a new hole or chew through rocks and plumbing foam. Both scenarios are highly likely. Moving would be the best thing to do although probably the hardest. The problem is that we have nowhere to go. Last week, we looked at 6 apartments, all of which were far worse than our current situation. Such is the plight of the common renter in NYC.

ST and I are now thinking and re-thinking our future plans for buying a home in Brooklyn. The popular spots are among the most highly-trafficked by mice and other vermin. It’s cute because ST constantly says, “When we move we’ll get this” or “When we move, we’ll get rid of that.” Everybody needs a goal and a hope for something more, something better. We’ll get there.

I Saw a Mouse

After discovering our mouse issue, getting fed up with our exterminator, ST and I embarked on a DIY extermination adventure.

This afternoon as I was waited for ST to get ready for lunch, I settled myself on the couch and began reading my Kindle. I kept hearing these soft thumping noises but just assumed they were from our neighbors. Suddenly, I heard a thump that seemed kind of close to me. I looked around the room and…

Warning: Don’t continue if you don’t want to see a picture of a mouse.

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Adventures in DIY Extermination

I loathe rodents. Who doesn’t? They are twitchy, dirty, and disgusting.

Sunset Park, like most parts of NYC, is mice-infested. Lovely, I know. Here are the main issues -

  • Our landlords do not maintain their property. It is an old property that’s riddled with holes. It hasn’t been renovated in years. We moved in right after our landlords’ daughter moved out and they didn’t do anything to it except clean. Despite this, the price and size make it a great value though.
  • Mice enter from the environment. Since there are so many mice in the neighborhood, they come into the house using exterior holes that we don’t know about/can’t see.
  • There are already mice living in the house. For every mouse you see, there are probably 20 that you can’t. So, since I’ve seen 3, we have a big problem.

Me and the mice in our apartment have an unspoken grudge against each other and try to one up the other every chance we get. I am vigilant of mouse holes to the point of paranoia; the mice only reveal themselves to me – seriously. I was sitting in the kitchen one day while ST was at work. All of a sudden, this little gray guy runs from the living room, under the fridge, and along the kitchen cabinets to get to his hiding place.

After freaking out perched on a stool for 3 minutes, I realized this was war.

My first plan of action was to call the exterminator again since we have a 2 year guarantee with him. He came and did his thing. We found that the mice had chewed through the white foam he used initially. Mice eat everything. This time, he went over everything with caulk.

The next night as I’m getting a glass of water alone in the kitchen, I SEE ANOTHER HOLE. Oh, HELL NO. You will not play me again, mice. I immediately texted the exterminator but he told us a bunch of excuses why he can’t come until next week. Perfect.

So, I checked the patched holes and found that those pests have been busy undoing all our work.

I did some research on the web and formed a plan of action:

  • We can’t just set traps. Since we have a serious infestation with unlimited access outside the house for mice to enter, simply setting traps is like putting a bandage on a gaping, infected wound. We need to come at this problem with both traps and by patching holes.
  • Mice eat white foam. These nasty, highly-adaptive creatures seem to actually like eating expanding white foam, which is what our exterminator used. What is recommended is triple expanding yellow foam.
  • Steel wool doesn’t work. Our exterminator plugged up holes with steel wool. This was obviously ineffective. Rocks and pieces of glass are recommended to deter mice from coming back to their holes.

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